• Plato at the Googleplex

  • Why Philosophy Won't Go Away
  • By: Rebecca Goldstein
  • Narrated by: Dennis Holland
  • Length: 16 hrs and 43 mins
  • 4.2 out of 5 stars (184 ratings)

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Plato at the Googleplex

By: Rebecca Goldstein
Narrated by: Dennis Holland
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Is philosophy obsolete? Are the ancient questions still relevant in the age of cosmology and neuroscience, not to mention crowd-sourcing and cable news? The acclaimed philosopher and novelist Rebecca Newberger Goldstein provides a dazzlingly original plunge into the drama of philosophy, revealing its hidden role in today’s debates on religion, morality, politics, and science.

At the origin of Western philosophy stands Plato, who got about as much wrong as one would expect from a thinker who lived 2,400 years ago. But Plato’s role in shaping philosophy was pivotal. On her way to considering the place of philosophy in our ongoing intellectual life, Goldstein tells a new story of its origin, re-envisioning the extraordinary culture that produced the man who produced philosophy.

But it is primarily the fate of philosophy that concerns her. Is the discipline no more than a way of biding our time until the scientists arrive on the scene? Have they already arrived? Does philosophy itself ever make progress? And if it does, why is so ancient a figure as Plato of any continuing relevance? Plato at the Googleplex is Goldstein’s startling investigation of these conundra.

She interweaves her narrative with Plato’s own choice for bringing ideas to life - the dialogue.Imagine that Plato came to life in the twenty-first century and embarked on a multicity speaking tour. How would he handle the host of a cable news program who denies there can be morality without religion? How would he mediate a debate between a Freudian psychoanalyst and a tiger mom on how to raise the perfect child? How would he answer a neuroscientist who, about to scan Plato’s brain, argues that science has definitively answered the questions of free will and moral agency? What would Plato make of Google, and of the idea that knowledge can be crowd-sourced rather than reasoned out by experts? With a philosopher’s depth and a novelist’s imagination and wit, Goldstein probes the deepest issues confronting us by allowing us to eavesdrop on Plato as he takes on the modern world.

©2014 Rebecca Goldstein (P)2014 Audible, Inc.

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"Dennis Holland has his work cut out for him as he must create a vocal identity for Plato and a host of other characters in this audiobook. He does well with creating a consistent fictional Plato, and, while not all his characters sound real, he does vocally guide listeners through the complex content." ( AudioFile)

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Was looking forward to it, can't bear it

What disappointed you about Plato at the Googleplex?

I really looked forward to this. And there are some good parts, leading to introspection and deeper thought. But in some unfortunate convergence of story and narration the result is quite annoying. The voices make me cringe. The characters in the dialogs are horrible. And the overall impression is kinda of well, just downright annoying. Preachy, trite, a bit silly. It is in the end, perhaps just too patronizing. Like the author and/or narrator is "talking down" to the listener.

Would you be willing to try another book from Rebecca Goldstein? Why or why not?

Probably not, but can't say for sure.

Would you be willing to try another one of Dennis Holland’s performances?

Not so sure about that. I have developed a pretty bad association at this point with some of the voices in this book.

You didn’t love this book... but did it have any redeeming qualities?

Yes, the subject matter is potentially interesting, the context is a great idea, and at times it does deliver. It stretches you to think a little more about both yourself, the world around you and your reaction to it. But you pay a high price to get there, too high.

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Don't talk down to your audience!

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Wonderful book

Great for anyone who is curious about philosophy, and it's probably even more entertaining if you have a philosophy background. I was a philosophy major and Plato is one of my all-time favorites. This book literally brings him to life and applies his philosophy to the modern world.

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Yawn

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Only worthwhile if one is completely alien to philosophy, and then Sophie's World or the Dreamweaver are way better as introductory texts.

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Good Idea But ...

What could have made this a 4 or 5-star listening experience for you?

If the book at been what it first seemed to be - an exciting look at the philosophy of Plato in today's world.

Would you ever listen to anything by Rebecca Goldstein again?

Yes, she can write well but sometimes seems to put in a lot of 'filler' to beef up a simple point.

How could the performance have been better?

The book was well narrated.

You didn’t love this book... but did it have any redeeming qualities?

Yes. it does look at today's world and place it in a larger context.

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An intriguing idea....

This is an intriguing concept that was buried in an absolute avalanche of words. It was a very difficult slog but I dragged myself through it.

I deeply admire Rebecca’s research and knowledge, but was it entirely necessary to regurgitate it all upon us under the pretext of a clever allegory? In spite of her effort, I think the only logical verdict for this book is a good dose of hemlock.

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Philosophy needs more of this

This brings philosophy ALIVE! As a former philosophy instructor I never go this part right. I find philosophy very compelling as it has taken up most of my life. Unfortunately too much is BORING. Deeply appreciate this book.

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Once Ms. Goldstein has blown me away!

When I was young and in college, Plato filled my heart and head with thoughts & ideas that would guide my entire life. I had forgotten just how much. And, now, at age 73, this terrific book was an “oh, that’s where this all comes from” reminder. Dejavue all over again. At the same time, the book is also very timely..it shines a light on many things that we are just not getting right today. And she has illuminated the notion that all philosophy is but a footnote to Plato. Placing Plato in current settings makes you realize that his genius has never faded. Thank you for a terrific book.

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Engaging, entertaining, and insightful

This book mixes fun vignettes (a spoon full of sugar) with some detailed and sometimes complex discussions of Plato's life, thoughts, and works (the medicine). the combination works well. The philosophy is comprehensive enough to be satisfying while avoiding the temptation to get mired in the kind of complexity which is of interest only to Philosophers. not a light book, but if you're willing to pay attention, well worth the effort.

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Brilliant!!!!

Entertainingly intelligent. Timeless and wise. Ordering a hard copy to share and savor. My first book by this amazing author, definitely not my last….

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May be great for philosophers, but ...

As a non-philosopher, I was hoping to get a better understanding of Plato through what sounds like an interesting premise - have Plato involved in 21st century America and see if he is still relevant. Before getting to that point, the author spends an inordinant amount of time discussing why Plato is relevant today, using philosophical arguments - not too exciting for a non-philosopher and definitely not why I bought the book. After a few hours of listening, I finally reached the part I was waiting for - Plato at the Googleplex. However, I was somewhat disappointed in how the premise unfolded. The woman doing most of the speaking was nauseating to me and way over-dramatic, and, like most parts of the book, it was too long. I began losing interest, but hung in there to the end of the Googleplex to see if I could learn anything. Unfortunately, I didn't. Following the Googleplex, the author moved on to another lengthy philosophical argument that lasted for hours again, and left me dreary-eyed. I hoped that the next Plato encounter would be more exciting, but alas, it was not. I couldn't push myself to listen any longer, having finished only about half of the book.
So my take on the book is that it's probably a fun read for philosophers, but for the rest of us wanting to get a taste, it will be more challenging.

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